WEBVTT Kind: captions Language: en 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.720 Pewdepie is a big old meanie, Logan Paul... 00:00:04.180 --> 00:00:07.560 defends himself and much more information coming up. 00:00:07.560 --> 00:00:10.769 I'm Poppy Harlow and you're watching pew news (weird pop thing) 00:00:21.760 --> 00:00:25.709 Good Evening. I'm poppy Harlow you're watching pew news the most 00:00:26.410 --> 00:00:31.289 ...new site. As you may have heard PewDiePie got into trouble in the media recently (clears throat) 00:00:32.200 --> 00:00:33.370 I hate that Guy 00:00:33.370 --> 00:00:36.570 I don't even care that it was a deep-fried meme. 00:00:37.180 --> 00:00:40.409 The fact that he posted it speaks volumes. 00:00:40.410 --> 00:00:47.459 I feel like I'm probably better off not talking about this, but I want to share my thoughts. I didn't know much about Demi I... 00:00:48.160 --> 00:00:53.279 I've only really just played her video game a few years ago, and I realized that...uh.. 00:00:53.890 --> 00:00:59.609 It's for kids. She clearly has a very very young audience me to see that she's messing with drugs... 00:00:59.609 --> 00:01:05.399 I just thought what an idiot. I'm not the greatest role model, but at least I've never done anything 00:01:05.979 --> 00:01:12.239 Straight-out illegal, so I thought well, you know, it's just fun to make- fine to just make fun of it and I realized now 00:01:12.880 --> 00:01:17.670 No, no, it wasn't because a lot of people seem to doubt my sincerity 00:01:17.670 --> 00:01:25.259 I guess in some way. Just to give context it was 5 a.m. in the morning. Sometimes my dogs wake me up really early and uhh 00:01:26.290 --> 00:01:28.290 This has nothing to do with anything. 00:01:28.750 --> 00:01:34.319 Basically, I saw the meme it made me laugh and I posted it on like Twitter. I went to sleep two hours. 00:01:34.329 --> 00:01:36.159 I woke up and um... 00:01:36.159 --> 00:01:41.069 A lot of people were really upset to be honest. I didn't get it. I didn't get it at all. 00:01:41.130 --> 00:01:43.920 I'm not the one doing drugs. What the heck did I do? 00:01:44.320 --> 00:01:49.169 The meme is so ironic and so stupid talking about like like a boss. I was like 00:01:50.409 --> 00:01:57.179 She's still alive. What's the problem if anything, this is a way to snap out of it like yeah, you were an idiot. 00:01:57.250 --> 00:02:04.709 So the fact that people came after me, I was just I was really trying to understand why so I read up on addiction 00:02:04.710 --> 00:02:08.279 I try to decipher in between the 'you should burn in fire' 00:02:09.000 --> 00:02:13.289 messages cause- also a lot of people are saying that I was making fun of mental health. 00:02:13.510 --> 00:02:17.910 Which no that wasn't the case at all. I was making fun of Demi and her poor choices. 00:02:18.070 --> 00:02:22.769 Cause a lot of people were like 'Well you talked about mental help a few days ago in a video. You're such a hypocrite' 00:02:22.770 --> 00:02:28.259 I wasn't doing that. I was making fun of Demi for her poor decision. I realized and I learned that 00:02:29.320 --> 00:02:37.259 ostracizing and shaming is the last thing an addict needs to recover cause that's just going to make them more likely to 00:02:37.570 --> 00:02:43.229 Relapse and fall back into that behavior. What an addict needs is support and help from 00:02:43.900 --> 00:02:49.230 friends and family and I think the public as well. And I also learned that this is her second time 00:02:50.110 --> 00:02:56.940 She's dealt with drugs. I just thought I'm really just kicking on someone that's on their complete lowest 00:02:56.940 --> 00:03:01.259 I get why people are upset this was wrong for me to do it was a bad thing to do 00:03:01.260 --> 00:03:04.649 I don't think it was the worst thing in the world, but it wasn't a nice thing 00:03:04.650 --> 00:03:10.709 I can definitely say that. So I thought okay. You know what? I'll just delete it and I'll apologize. 00:03:12.130 --> 00:03:14.130 sincerely and 00:03:14.380 --> 00:03:16.120 That should be it. 00:03:16.120 --> 00:03:18.120 How foolish I am... 00:03:18.160 --> 00:03:20.279 I always get people telling me 00:03:20.950 --> 00:03:25.290 Stop apologizing. You idiot. What are you doing? You're just making things worse. 00:03:26.019 --> 00:03:33.119 Any time you apologize to these people they don't care and they're just gonna shame you even more. I think that's what happened. 00:03:33.940 --> 00:03:37.019 BBC posted about it. NBC posted about it. BuzzFeed. 00:03:37.049 --> 00:03:41.759 I think the BuzzFeed journalists on her Twitter call it the hell fire or something like that. 00:03:41.760 --> 00:03:45.120 Like this is the hell we live in it's like Geez! 00:03:45.120 --> 00:03:48.120 But I feel like if I think I've done something wrong... 00:03:48.120 --> 00:03:53.910 I shouldn't have the ego or the strategy to just say no, it's better if I don't apologize. 00:03:54.130 --> 00:03:59.219 a lot of people were saying that anyone could have posted this meme and no one would bat an eye and I I 00:03:59.290 --> 00:04:00.959 Think there is some truth to that 00:04:00.959 --> 00:04:08.039 I find it interesting how you have someone that's a role model to a lot of kids you make a message about how 00:04:08.560 --> 00:04:15.260 Much better you are now and then you just fall back into the same pain and somehow I'm the bad role model in this 00:04:15.450 --> 00:04:23.030 Situation, huh? I'm the villain for just posting a meme about it. It doesn't really make sense to me, and I'm not attacking her 00:04:23.030 --> 00:04:30.350 I'm just saying that a lot of people were saying that it's not her fault for her addiction. It's an addiction 00:04:30.350 --> 00:04:32.180 She can't control it and I agree 00:04:32.180 --> 00:04:37.580 She shouldn't be shamed because of an addiction, but I also don't think babying people will help either 00:04:37.860 --> 00:04:44.749 Saying that it's completely out of someone's control is also saying that it's not up to them to recover from it 00:04:44.780 --> 00:04:49.670 It's like saying anyone that recovered from addiction didn't do it from their own work 00:04:49.670 --> 00:04:53.839 And will it's just a completely random ven, which doesn't make any sense 00:04:53.880 --> 00:04:59.689 it's always been a meme on this channel that anything I say will be picked up on the media and 00:05:00.480 --> 00:05:07.939 I feel like this was just a testimony of that mean like that's it's a truth essentially anything I say will be 00:05:08.280 --> 00:05:10.280 highlighted they will jump on any 00:05:11.370 --> 00:05:13.020 reason to 00:05:13.020 --> 00:05:17.780 put down my name because if they really cared about these issues about 00:05:18.480 --> 00:05:24.349 addiction they would go after the people that that shed a light on it in a positive way not the ones that try and 00:05:25.020 --> 00:05:28.159 Ridicule it. I don't know. I don't care moving on 00:05:28.160 --> 00:05:32.600 I wasn't gonna talk about this, but it came on today and I watched it 00:05:32.600 --> 00:05:39.770 I thought it was so crazy that I had to talk about. It kz9 said there's an interview with Logan Paul and man I 00:05:40.710 --> 00:05:48.019 Want to like you Logan I swear but you making it really hard and I find this super interesting cos KZ and Logan are 00:05:48.660 --> 00:05:53.330 very similar personalities, they're all about pushing the edge of 00:05:55.140 --> 00:05:59.869 Living life to the fullest but their drives are just completely opposite 00:05:59.870 --> 00:06:03.290 I think it means falling into the social medium machine 00:06:03.960 --> 00:06:06.049 Over the past four years building an audience 00:06:07.560 --> 00:06:13.580 Garnering false power through views which equates to money which equates to against success and 00:06:13.890 --> 00:06:15.890 Then essentially losing it all 00:06:16.650 --> 00:06:18.570 overnight becoming 00:06:18.570 --> 00:06:21.320 the most hated man in the world 00:06:22.180 --> 00:06:23.710 in the snap of a finger 00:06:23.710 --> 00:06:29.410 So the hyperbole every single time the most hated man 00:06:29.900 --> 00:06:34.660 Casey asked lo at Logan about this documentary that he's filming and 00:06:35.240 --> 00:06:43.240 About the whole incident. Is this a fluff piece to make people feel better about Logan Paul? No, no, not at all this. It's it's 00:06:43.850 --> 00:06:45.620 from 00:06:45.620 --> 00:06:51.009 Making content throughout the years. I try to be as unbiased as possible and 00:06:52.370 --> 00:06:53.720 this 00:06:53.720 --> 00:06:58.059 Documentary is going to be as unbiased as possible, but it's me who makes it 00:06:58.970 --> 00:07:00.500 Okay, great 00:07:00.500 --> 00:07:06.369 I'm sure we very unbiased think people should can or will sympathize with me 00:07:06.370 --> 00:07:11.410 Let's be honest Casey. Like let's be honest Casey. I don't know Marcus 00:07:11.510 --> 00:07:14.590 I see through your social training Logan 00:07:15.200 --> 00:07:22.180 When you put out content like that, do you realize the age of your audience? It's odd because Michael I'm 22 years old 00:07:22.180 --> 00:07:26.350 It's not like I don't know why but whenever I see small things like this. I know I'm nitpicking 00:07:27.260 --> 00:07:29.260 it feels 00:07:29.660 --> 00:07:31.660 Disingenuous is it not? 00:07:32.300 --> 00:07:37.840 Premature like it before you can tell a redemption story. There has to be an act of redemption 00:07:39.020 --> 00:07:40.850 true 00:07:40.850 --> 00:07:45.730 What is the act of redemption bin for Logan Paul? It's it's not been done yet 00:07:46.060 --> 00:07:52.419 That's Logan is talking about how this documentary is going to be his redemption story because people love it a redemption story 00:07:52.790 --> 00:07:54.590 People told me this 00:07:54.590 --> 00:07:58.690 Verbatim so many times that you shouldn't you need to do your redemption 00:07:58.690 --> 00:08:01.839 You need to film a documentary people told me this many times 00:08:01.910 --> 00:08:07.449 That's how you'll do your comeback and people are telling Logan the same thing and that's why it's doing this documentary 00:08:07.820 --> 00:08:12.610 Just like people told me after the wall street journal that I need to do a charity 00:08:12.800 --> 00:08:17.410 For Jewish charities or something like that, and I said no 00:08:18.050 --> 00:08:24.220 Not because I don't want to because but because it will seem like the most disingenuous thing ever 00:08:24.410 --> 00:08:30.249 You're not doing it because you want to you're doing it to save your brand and people are smart enough to see through those things 00:08:30.520 --> 00:08:32.520 the rat Casey has 00:08:32.750 --> 00:08:37.359 Logan about the red, you know as soon as this forest incident 00:08:38.149 --> 00:08:40.269 He tastes the rat or whatever 00:08:41.300 --> 00:08:45.399 Why what was up with that? Yeah, the rat was that was me 00:08:46.670 --> 00:08:51.520 Becoming obsessed with the idea of being a villain. I just I made the conscious decision 00:08:52.130 --> 00:08:55.419 I'm gonna I'm gonna be the guy they think I am I can actually 00:08:56.120 --> 00:08:58.450 Relate to Logan here a lot of times 00:08:59.120 --> 00:09:06.339 After all the scandals I've been through I question my own morals. I question. Why do I keep ending up in? 00:09:07.370 --> 00:09:14.649 These situations and a lot of times I find the answer to be I am genuinely a bad person. I do die 00:09:14.649 --> 00:09:17.259 I genuinely think it a lot of times not all the times 00:09:17.260 --> 00:09:21.369 But I think the difference is I'm not trying to make other people think 00:09:22.160 --> 00:09:23.649 I'm a good person 00:09:23.649 --> 00:09:26.349 I can make content and I have been for four years 00:09:26.899 --> 00:09:32.799 For four years making people laugh smile believing themselves making them believe that they can accomplish their goals 00:09:32.800 --> 00:09:36.190 Even if they're from a small town in, Ohio, I've been making videos for eight years 00:09:36.320 --> 00:09:42.909 I just want to show people that you can make it. Even if you're just from a small town in Sweden 00:09:43.370 --> 00:09:46.510 What are you saying to use that same pretext as? 00:09:47.000 --> 00:09:52.089 Sort of justification for you know killing a rat or why didn't kill the rat 00:09:55.220 --> 00:10:00.459 Just shut up. It doesn't matter at this point don't defend these things. It's the same with me 00:10:01.100 --> 00:10:02.529 When I drop the n-bomb 00:10:02.529 --> 00:10:06.759 A lot of people were like, he said it to another person and I always want to say no 00:10:06.829 --> 00:10:10.839 No one heard me say it, but I'm not gonna use that defense because it doesn't matter 00:10:10.839 --> 00:10:14.919 That's not what people took out of it some of the other more controversial sensational things you've done 00:10:15.050 --> 00:10:21.700 Yeah, running around Japan wearing silly outfits. Yeah, so that Union sensitive to culture apparently for some reason 00:10:22.279 --> 00:10:24.279 Casey calls 00:10:24.410 --> 00:10:30.490 Casey calling Logan culturally insensitive. It's the most upsetting thing ever for him. I want to address this cuz 00:10:31.610 --> 00:10:35.169 I'm not gonna lie. This is the the hardest thing about all this is I 00:10:36.079 --> 00:10:38.079 Think being perceived as culturally insensitive 00:10:41.240 --> 00:10:48.519 I'm not gonna lie, but the hardest thing out of all this it's the fact that you just called me 00:10:49.459 --> 00:10:51.459 culturally insensitive 00:10:52.430 --> 00:10:56.649 That's okay I are we expected to believe that or 00:10:58.160 --> 00:11:05.829 As far as the outfits go they were on sale at a store the outfits were on sale on their store so then it's okay 00:11:06.920 --> 00:11:08.920 Right next to the temple that we were at 00:11:09.259 --> 00:11:16.809 For tourists do we not buy the outfits? Maybe he just doesn't understand what it is. There's a difference between culturally insensitive and 00:11:17.569 --> 00:11:23.139 insensitive, but it also doesn't matter and you don't seem to understand why one is offensive anyway, so 00:11:23.899 --> 00:11:25.899 I'm vegan. Now I 00:11:27.259 --> 00:11:32.378 Think the most important thing to take out of this video is this I'm vegan now 00:11:35.360 --> 00:11:37.360 00:11:39.769 --> 00:11:45.549 Why do you think you being vegan is relevant to anything doing what you want to do to achieve your goals 00:11:45.550 --> 00:11:50.139 Which is all like I said, it's always been that but all that stuff is overlooked 00:11:50.660 --> 00:11:55.899 When you make mistake, or I can agree again with Logan here. He's done good 00:11:55.899 --> 00:12:00.969 I mean, I don't agree with it, but he thinks he's done good like inspiring kids and I can relate to that 00:12:00.970 --> 00:12:06.250 I think I've done a lot of positive for in with my channel as well that never gets highlighted 00:12:06.250 --> 00:12:12.789 But I don't feel the need to constantly tell people like I'm a good person. Look I do it done all these things 00:12:13.149 --> 00:12:18.818 I don't know these charities. I don't know these things. Look I'm a good person. That shouldn't be your mission to keep reminding people 00:12:18.850 --> 00:12:22.870 so then Logan talks about how it led up to all this scandal like he was just 00:12:23.089 --> 00:12:28.479 Constantly making videos and not thinking what he was doing. We got so caught up in 00:12:30.589 --> 00:12:36.698 Creating that we did not stop to think about what we were making and whether or not it was right 00:12:37.009 --> 00:12:39.609 Because it you make it you put it out 00:12:39.610 --> 00:12:46.750 We were on autopilot essentially which is it's it's extremely dangerous when you're broadcasting to an audience of five to seven million people every day 00:12:48.110 --> 00:12:54.350 And so there was no thinking there was it was create content create content create content not okay 00:12:54.360 --> 00:12:59.599 Hey, take a step back. Slow down breathe. Do you believe that or is that bullshit? 00:12:59.600 --> 00:13:04.549 Because if that's if that mission is the same as this this momentum this autopilot 00:13:05.310 --> 00:13:11.299 Where's the distinction between wanting to do good and wanting to you know, looking for sensationalism that will drive clicks? 00:13:11.300 --> 00:13:13.300 I'm not I'm not sure I understand the question 00:13:16.050 --> 00:13:22.640 That's such a great question I'm not I'm not sure I understand Chris. Hey, this is too much of a mumbo-jumbo 00:13:23.280 --> 00:13:29.569 He's saying that if you're just on autopilot, and you're not thinking about what you're doing, how can they you say? 00:13:30.240 --> 00:13:36.740 That you care about spreading a positive message and not just caring about sensationalism. I understand I understand 00:13:40.920 --> 00:13:47.959 Okay, I can go on pick details whatever you should watch you interview it's interesting a lot of people gave Casey 00:13:49.110 --> 00:13:52.130 Or doing this. I think it's good to create a 00:13:52.650 --> 00:13:58.730 Dialogue it's a shame how people are so militant towards people. They don't like that. They won't even talk to them 00:13:59.370 --> 00:14:03.739 Because that's really how you create division more than anything, which is leads to more hate 00:14:03.890 --> 00:14:10.220 I think is he's doing a noble thing. But the final point I find hilarious because Casey praises Logan's 00:14:11.940 --> 00:14:18.320 Anti-suicide video that the video he did after the whole thing and the response from Logan 00:14:18.320 --> 00:14:23.420 It's just that video. I think had a very important message behind. It was a I liked that video 00:14:23.420 --> 00:14:25.550 I tweeted that I liked that video I get for it 00:14:27.000 --> 00:14:29.000 but did it show you sort of the 00:14:29.580 --> 00:14:31.850 Demonstrate to you that your channel is capable of so much more 00:14:32.180 --> 00:14:37.640 And your reach is capable and your voice is capable of so much more than just in socialism views. Yes 00:14:37.740 --> 00:14:39.740 Did it change you away from? 00:14:39.870 --> 00:14:47.239 Sensationalism and views that what is a question his answer. It's it's the most viewed suus anti-suicide 00:14:48.480 --> 00:14:50.780 PSA ever. It's the most 00:14:51.660 --> 00:14:53.660 viewed ever 00:14:54.180 --> 00:14:56.180 I am so great. I 00:14:56.980 --> 00:15:02.279 Have the most viewed PSA anti-suicide video ever. I don't 00:15:07.029 --> 00:15:13.109 Really want Lowen to come back but I don't think he can until he's completely honest 00:15:13.810 --> 00:15:16.770 Because people are constantly going to be skeptical 00:15:17.800 --> 00:15:19.410 especially at this point 00:15:19.410 --> 00:15:27.060 I think this entire interview Logan is trying to give the answer that he thinks KZ wants and my tip for Logan 00:15:27.370 --> 00:15:29.370 unsolicited advice would be 00:15:30.070 --> 00:15:32.099 Question yourself why these? 00:15:33.130 --> 00:15:40.619 Titles are important to you. Oh, I'm vegan or you can't call me culturally insensitive and why you care that your video? 00:15:41.230 --> 00:15:46.560 Anti PSA has the most views why is that important to you? 00:15:46.570 --> 00:15:48.719 And I'm asking you right honestly 00:15:48.720 --> 00:15:56.339 Is it to reach more people or is it because you like things to be big because we've seen only evidence for that 00:15:56.339 --> 00:16:02.579 So far, so that's all people are gonna see your intention might be different, but I doubt it 00:16:03.220 --> 00:16:08.700 Next news twitch added gifts is that in gifts? That's crazy 00:16:09.520 --> 00:16:11.520 Alright, we're out of time